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Offline gadeuvall2000

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Air Access 18
« on: February 08, 2022, 06:29:57 PM »
Welcome to the Air Access 18 forums.  You you will find information as well as the official download for the Air Access 18 project.

The concept of this project is to make the functionality of the X-Air X-18 and XR-18 accessible through the means of a more screen reader friendly user interface.  For more information on how AOSC  works, please see  AOSC post.

Currently this project works under Windows with NVDA or Narrator, and under Linux Wine.  It may work under Wine for Apple, but has not been tested, and there are no current plans for Apple development.


The zip package contains a group of files that were designed to work with AOSC. 

Please read the EULA.txt and ReadMe.txt files contained within the zip package before using. 

Here's a playlist of videos to help you get acquainted with Air Access 18:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_KlosoJFir0p17B3kMRiTGJctP4PBIia

You can find and download the zip package here:
https://www.azslow.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=downfile&id=81

If you have any questions, feel free to post on the forums.

Updated 2022.03.21
Current version is Version 1.7.

Change Log:
2022.03.21
- Tap Tempo has been added to any "Delay" based effects.  pressing "space" on "time" fader activates this function.
- Alt+T is now a global shortcut for tap temop, and will only apply if a Delay based effect is loaded.  IF more than one is loaded, the shortcut will apply to the highest numbered slot.
- Added an input meter in Gate page next to threshold.
- Moved FX Processing meters to Parameters page
- Added a dedicated Main section for extra controls such as mute groups, Automix controls, and solo claring


2022.03.07:
- Added shortcuts to "Configure" pages
- Fixed Reduction meters on Gate and Compression pages.
- Aux Input has it's own section

2022.02.28
- Added keyboard shortcuts
- Some names have been changed for clearer understanding.


2022.02.22
- Added the ability to name Main LR strip.
- Added Clearsolo button on Main LR Strip
- All Input pages have been renamed to "Configure".
- Configure" page has been renamed to "System"
- Channel strip Color, Name, Mute Group, DCA Group, LInking, and any preamp and headamp configurations  are under respected strip's "Configure" page.
- General organization of "Routing" section.

2022.02.17
- Removed unused parameters in Master Compressor
- Added a Master Bus fader to bus mix sections.
- Added Aux Send output Meter to Bus mix section

2022.02.15
Updated EULA and Readme files
Fixed small bugs in XML
Organized templates in XML

2022.2.11:
- Fixed Typos
- Changed FX Routing from Return/Insert to Return/SideChain to better fit the original terms.

« Last Edit: March 21, 2022, 08:32:19 AM by gadeuvall2000 »

Offline Tomecki

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Re: Air Access 18
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2024, 09:57:27 PM »
Hi. Do you already know if Air Access 18 works well with Midas mr18? At the moment it is only slightly more expensive than the Behringer xr18, but the difference is that it has a 10-year limited warranty as opposed to the Behringer which has a 3-year limited warranty.

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Re: Air Access 18
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2024, 04:07:46 PM »
From all existing information, these units are identical except different pre-amps. So the solution should be compatible. But I can't give any warrantee for that, till someone with MR18 confirm that really works.

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Re: Air Access 18
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2024, 06:11:11 PM »
So it looks like I'll be confirming it. ☺️Unfortunately, I haven't had access to any digital mixer so far, so I may have a few questions, although I tried to review a lot of materials, including the original user manual. Do you have a checklist of things I could check to make sure everything is working properly?

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Re: Air Access 18
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2024, 11:48:10 PM »
I don't think you will need everything. Use what you need and in case something does not responds right, let us know and we try to fix.

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Re: Air Access 18
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2024, 10:54:26 AM »
It looks like it's working. I tested a few things and it's basically ok, except that the send gain is adjusted in steps of 0.25db instead of 0.1db, which makes changing by 1 step difficult because the mixer updates the value very quickly to the closest possible one. Another thing is that after sending the /info command, it showed version v0.04, so it is probably very old, if it is the same as the firmware version. In theory, you can download firmware 1.22 on the website, but I was unable to do so. There is a blank line instead of the "download" link. Moreover, it would be useful to be able to check the version without entering the /info command manually.

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Re: Air Access 18
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2024, 01:37:56 PM »
Behringer download page is not perfectly accessible. There is an icon in each row of the table which should be clicked to initiate download for that row.

I have not foreseen two values for parameter granularity, so there is just one. And it is a trade between precision and speed.
/info command is not something used every day. But you can add that if you want, the whole preset is user created. I mean after reading the documentation
you can adjust XML for your needs and wishes.

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Re: Air Access 18
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2024, 07:27:49 PM »
I tried clicking on everything possible in the table with files to download, but unfortunately it didn't help. I also tried to expand the "software" link on the product page, but also without success. Axes hammer and looking at the source of the page didn't help me either.

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Re: Air Access 18
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2024, 01:28:52 PM »
I have sent you PM with direct links. Note there are 2 revisions of the mixer, V1 and V2.

In general, Behringer/Midas Download page has two tables. In the first you select what you want and in the second you can click on download. Both are not really accessible.

But for Midas MR18 there is faster way, go to the product page https://www.midasconsoles.com/product.html?modelCode=0605-AAF , Google find it as one of the first when you search,
tab till the list Software, enter to expand, arrow to the software you want, in this case firmware 1.22 for V1 or V2, enter to select. There will be no notification, but a dialog will be presented to agree with the license. Technically it is at the end of tab order, so tab till dialog, select "I agree" in it and then enter on "Download" button.

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Re: Air Access 18
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2024, 11:15:09 PM »
Ok, thanks so much.

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Re: Air Access 18
« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2024, 09:00:36 PM »
When I try to upload the scene file, I get the following error "at the end: AZ AOSC  dialog  Verification failed for '/ch/01/gate'". This, of course, applies to Midas mr18.

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Re: Air Access 18
« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2024, 12:11:00 PM »
How you connect the mixer? I mean wifi or ethernet, throw router or directly? I remember we had quite some performance issues on WiFi, which was triggering timeouts.

I only have access to XR12 and even that is not in my room. Gerad no longer has XR18, it has upgraded to X32. I mean I can investigate problems and eventually fix, but that
will take quite some time and effort. Probably by connecting to you remotely and checking what is going on. And so if you can check yourself, that will be way faster.

AOSC is working by sending OSC messages, like in Debugger dialog. Scenes form what I remember are send not one by one, so with a bit different communication. The text file x.sct
define what to collect as a scene. So the first thing to check if scene file, also just text, has reasonable information about failing parameter.

I have debugging version of AOSC which write detailed log about what is going on, that will be the next step to troubleshoot.

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Re: Air Access 18
« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2024, 06:10:17 PM »
I connect via ethernet. I tried saving and loading different scenes several times, i.e. scenes with different mixer settings, and I always got exactly the same error. The entry in the file looks like this: /ch/01/gate OFF GATE -80.0 60.0 1 502 983 SELF
It is worth mentioning that the gate in this channel is in the default settings and turned off.

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Re: Air Access 18
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2024, 01:52:44 PM »
Can you use this executable https://www.azslow.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=downfile&id=94 instead of distributed one?
Note that its directory should be writable by user which run it. Do failing operation and somehow give me created log file.

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Re: Air Access 18
« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2024, 07:51:58 PM »
After a quick look at the logo, it seems to me that it does not contain any confidential data, so I am sending it as an attachment to the post.