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AZ Controller plug-in for Cakewalk SONAR => Presets => Topic started by: MarKo on June 03, 2016, 12:00:23 PM

Title: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: MarKo on June 03, 2016, 12:00:23 PM
From AZ: As correctly noticed by Bassman, the preset is in fact the "jewel" compare to my "stones". Unfortunately, I have not found the time to compose short but complete formal description for it and so it was not in the "Presets" board. Till I (or MarKo) prepare polished instruction and description, I just put the list of related threads:

BCR-2000 beta 7 (http://www.azslow.com/index.php/topic,237.0.html) - actual version
BCR-2000 beta 3 (http://www.azslow.com/index.php/topic,221.0.html)
BCR-2000 beta 2 (http://www.azslow.com/index.php/topic,213.0.html)
BCR-2000 preset (the first beta) (http://www.azslow.com/index.php/topic,208.0.html)
Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: Bassman on September 20, 2016, 08:39:03 AM
Hi there:)

Here is a link to a PDF from me about the possibilities of MarKos Preset and attached the newest version 9.07. I've not heard from Martin a long time so I decided to upload it. we wanted to make a Video, but as long I have not worked on the text with MarKo together it 's better to just show the PDF, hope you enjoy:)

Bassman
Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: azslow3 on September 20, 2016, 10:58:13 AM
Hi,

Good work! I have increased allowed size and edited your post. For some reason, the link you have used has triggered IP ban from my provider side.
My computer IP (and some IPs from US) could no longer access my site(s). They could not give me exact explanation and everything should be fixed by now...
Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: paulf707 on July 15, 2017, 07:00:28 PM
Hi
Just looking at options to get a BCR2000
Seen some articles where people have had trouble getting the USB drivers to work with Windows 10
Does the BCR2000 need to be connected via USB for AZ Controller to work - or can it be connected via Midi?
Has anyone got the BCR2000 working with USB on Windows 10?
Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: azslow3 on July 16, 2017, 09:35:53 PM
I do not have the device, so I can not answer...
MarKo was not here for long time, but Bassman probably knows the answer.
Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: kashmate on August 02, 2017, 08:52:42 AM
Quick question, in this BCR2000 preset, does it support "feedback", e.g changing values in Sonar GUI (in ACT mode) will update the BCR2000 led rings ?

Thanks.
Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: azslow3 on August 02, 2017, 09:26:54 AM
Yes, it should. AZ Controller is bi-directional and this preset intensively use that feature.
Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: Cheese on August 12, 2017, 10:01:15 AM
hi :)

this preset and AZ`s work is outstanding,im totally blown away with how much you guys have crammed into the interface ... real nice work  :D

one thing i cant figure out either using b9.07.spp or BCR2000_b7.spp is escaping to another BCR preset (i have the MARKO preset stored in 20 and use preset 1 and 2 in another controller software test) the instructions in the manual i think i misunderstand (maybe "escape to preset 2" means something else? )

for any other user with this problem:-

if you load BC Manager from Mountain utilites https://mountainutilities.eu/bcmanager then use the "copy preset to preset 0 "
option,this will allow the use of all BCR banks again (until you select the MARKO preset again)
Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: marcost on August 23, 2017, 02:11:54 PM
Hi,

Question please - I only use the ACT mode i.e. I don't need the other three modes (Prochannel, 24 track, 8 track). What I would like is that I can have more than one ACT mode preset that I can move between e.g. to control a plug-in with many more parameters than 32 rotaries.

I can see that there are more parameter 'slots' listed in AZ controller than the 32 available for assignment to rotaries on the BCR. Is there an easy way to use a button on the BCR to page down to parameter controls 33-64 etc? Or change one of the other modes in Marko's preset (eg Prochannel mode) to address a second set of ACT learnable parameters?

I imagine it might be easiest to copy the ACT mode template to one of the other modes and then just change the midi channel that the second one transmits on? And if this is possible, do I do this in AZcontroller or the syx programming of BCR?

Thanks!

Martin
Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: azslow3 on August 24, 2017, 07:42:05 AM
I think for more parameters the best approach is to define some buttons as bank switches, so there will be not 16 but let say 12 buttons for plug-in parameters, but 4 banks for all parameters (including these 12 buttons). I am away from home and such modification is not strait for users. Please remind me in September.
Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: marcost on August 24, 2017, 03:20:35 PM
Ok thank you!
Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: Bassman on October 06, 2017, 11:07:06 AM
HI:)

Sorry, I've no read the forum for a long time:(

@marcost

Actually I'm defining additional ACT parameters, so with "Double-Shift" you have:

48 Rotors
16 Sliders
32 knobs

for ACT.

Not ready yet, but I'm sure I can do it over weekend and load it up as soon as possible!


@Cheese

If you click on Controller settings in the Control Bar, then click on Logic and press the stop button!

Now you see the whole settings for the stop button! After the 2 lines for "TempoMode:1" is the Exit link:

Just change the Channel to your Midi channel within the BCR and PC to the target Preset you want to exit!
That's it
For me I have Midichannel 1 and exit to preset 2, means I selected Ch 1 and PC 1, cause 0 exits to preset 1, means it stays at marcos preset.

Greetz
Bassman.
Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: Bassman on October 06, 2017, 11:41:13 AM
Hi again:)

New Preset: b10.0

Additional ACT Controllers:

Normal ACT:

24 Rotors (1-24)
8 Sliders (1-8)
16 knobs (1-16)

With Double-Shift or Shift-Lock: Additional

24 Rotors (25-48)
8 Sliders (9-16)
16 knobs (17-32)

In my preset in Logic window and stop Button the exit channel and preset is set to channel 1 and preset 2! (Just change it to your behaviours)
Rotor 1 is Master Out Volume for the Main Out channels, Ctrl +Rotor 1 is Master Bus Volume. Perhaps some other small changes or additions to Marcos preset, which I can't remember, but if something doesn't work as expected, just write!

Have fun;)

Greetings,
Bassman.

Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: Cheese on October 07, 2017, 08:39:18 AM
\o/ Bassman!!! Many thanks for taking the time again to update this wonderful preset !!!

cannot wait to try it  ;D


thanks for the tech reply of my exit button,will put into practice :)


wishing you well from the UK :)
Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: Bassman on October 15, 2017, 10:56:49 AM
Hi:)

In ProChannel Mode, I changed Solo Buttons 7 and 8 from CE Tol and CE On to Shift Mode and Normal Buttons to LoShelf and HiShelf from the EQ!

Greetz,
Bassman.
Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: kingbee on October 16, 2017, 07:27:18 AM
I am having issues getting this to work properly. I have downloaded the All Buttons SYX to my BCR2000 and am using B7 SPP in AZControl..
All the encoders seem to jump around crazily instead of smooth increments.
I have checked on MIDI-OX, it is not my hardware.
Any ideas?
Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: azslow3 on October 16, 2017, 09:47:33 AM
In MIDI-OX (or AZ Controller) check what exactly your encoders send. If you turn encoders slowly, the should produce exactly the same message every tick (in one direction). If that is not the case, hardware layout it not set correctly.

You can learn a bit more how AZ Controller works in case you complete "Quick start" tutorial from scratch. In "Value" Action, "Direct Linear" (default) option should NOT work correctly, but "Endless MIDI" should.
Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: Bassman on October 16, 2017, 12:29:36 PM
HI:)

I've had this issue sometimes!

Try to deinstall AZController completely and reinstall it, this may help.

I'm looking for my SYSX Dumps, I have a lot of Complete Dumps, maybe this works.....

OK, it's in the attachment..

Greetings,
Bassman.
Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: azslow3 on October 16, 2017, 01:08:56 PM
Try to deinstall AZController completely and reinstall it, this may help.
Unlike with many other programs... "clean" installing AZ Controller make no sense. If you can see AZ Controller UI in Sonar, it is installed correctly (simply install it one more time if UI can not be called, that means Window registry is corrupted or AZ Controller binary is corrupted or manually moved).

But "cleaning" MIDI devices and Control surfaces settings in Sonar is required sometimes (especially in the last 3-4 Sonar versions). And in some cases, removing TTSSEQ.INI it the only option.
Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: Bassman on October 16, 2017, 02:26:40 PM
HI:)

I have had 3-4 times the issue, that the faders in Sonar jumped instead of moved steadily, the only thing what helped is to completely reinstall AZController and the preset. I'm sure it is not a problem of AZController.

Greetz,
Heinz.
Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: azslow3 on October 16, 2017, 09:25:55 PM
I have had 3-4 times the issue, that the faders in Sonar jumped instead of moved steadily, the only thing what helped is to completely reinstall AZController and the preset. I'm sure it is not a problem of AZController.
Hm... Reinstalling AZ Controller can not have any influence. Presets - yes. That is served by Sonar and can be "corrupted".
Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: Bassman on October 17, 2017, 11:11:10 AM
HI:)

@azslow3

next time it happens I'm trying just to delete and reimport preset, but it's fine since almost half a year....

Bassman
Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: azslow3 on October 17, 2017, 11:59:45 AM
next time it happens I'm trying just to delete and reimport preset, but it's fine since almost half a year....
It will be nice to understand what is not working in this case. Once you observe such odd behavior again, open AZ Controller interface, switch to the Overview tab, turn the encoder which produce strange result and make a screen-shot of AZ Controller window (better 2-3 after turning the encoder again, in both direction).
"Last MIDI event" will show what AZ Controller receives, the action list what it does with that information. So I can be able to identify what is going wrong.
 
Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: Bassman on October 18, 2017, 01:20:36 PM
@azslow3

Yes Sir;)

I'll do that....

Greetings:)
Heinz.
Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: BJ Baylon on November 04, 2017, 01:00:38 AM
Hi
Just looking at options to get a BCR2000
Seen some articles where people have had trouble getting the USB drivers to work with Windows 10
Does the BCR2000 need to be connected via USB for AZ Controller to work - or can it be connected via Midi?
Has anyone got the BCR2000 working with USB on Windows 10?
Yes, I have just recently installed it under Windows 10 and it´s working perfectly over usb
Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: Bassman on April 07, 2018, 10:09:07 AM
HI:)

@Alexey

Ich wollte in das Preset 2 Screensetaufrufe einbauen, sind zwar drin, aber sehr schwer zu erreichen!

Hab versucht das mit Long Press auf die Tasten Ctrl und Shift zu legen, aber das ging nicht, funktioniert hat das "Umbauen" der Longpress Tasten für SelIn und SelOut, aber dann fehlen mir ja die Tasten:(

Könntest du ohne grossen Aufwand mir sagen, ob das überhaupt möglich ist LongPress auf die Ctrl und Shift Taste zu legen?

Danke dir;)
Heinz.
Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: azslow3 on April 07, 2018, 02:39:00 PM
Hi Heinz,

Leider sehe ich das als keine gute Idee...  "Ctrl" "Shift" benutzt man schon  mit andere Elemente und  "dopple klick". Ich meine dann wird es viel zu viel Funktionen auf gleiche Tasten sein  :o
Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: Bassman on April 09, 2018, 11:28:19 AM
Hi:)

OK! Dann muss ich mir was anderes überlegen.....danke;)

Heinz.
Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: Bassman on June 25, 2018, 03:34:46 PM
Hi Alexey:)

Ist es möglich einen bestimmten Send eines Busses anzusprechen??

Also anstatt Bus 1 Volume auf dem Regler 1 ganz links unten auf der BCR

Bus 2 Send Volume .......

Ich finde leider nichts!

Danke;)
Heinz.
Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: azslow3 on June 25, 2018, 04:41:28 PM
Hi Alexey:)

Ist es möglich einen bestimmten Send eines Busses anzusprechen??

Also anstatt Bus 1 Volume auf dem Regler 1 ganz links unten auf der BCR

Bus 2 Send Volume .......

Ich finde leider nichts!

Danke;)
Heinz.
Ich bin nicht sicher welche Control ist das in Preset. Aber es muss möglich sein,  "Bus 1 Volume" -> "Bus 2 Volume" und zusätzlich (mit das selbe Konditionen) "Send 2 Volume"
Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: Bassman on June 26, 2018, 08:17:43 AM
Hi Alexey:)

>>>"Bus 2 Volume" und zusätzlich (mit das selbe Konditionen) "Send 2 Volume"

Danke! Funktionert perfekt:)

Ich vergass das "zusätzlich".

Liebe Grüße;)
Heinz.

Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: Bassman on June 28, 2018, 11:51:38 AM
HI again:)

Ich weiss nicht ob es dir aufgefallen ist oder ob das nur bei mir so ist? Die Zoom Regler funktionieren in der PRV nicht mehr, nur noch im Track View.
Das ist seit der letzten Sonar Version so, also seit dem neuen (Dark) Look der PRV:(

Könntest du mal kucken ob das bei dir auch so ist??

Danke;)
Heinz.
Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: azslow3 on June 28, 2018, 12:24:17 PM
Hi!

Wie du weiß, ich habe keinen BCR  ;)  Kannst du sehen was genau diese Regler macht (in Overview Tab)? Was ich über Zoom in Preset sehe, sagt explizit "Track Zoom". Ob/wie es für PRV funktioniert weiß nur Cakewalk  :(

Grüße,
Alexey.
Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: Bassman on June 29, 2018, 06:44:23 AM
Moin Alexey:)

Ich hab jetzt anstatt Horizontal und Vertikal vergrössern die Keyboard Commands (Ctrl + Up, down, Left und Right) eingetragen, dann geht's in beiden Fenstern. Vergrössern und Verkleinern geht nur noch im Track Fenster, aber ist eigentlich egal, ist fast genauso gut:)

Danke und bis denne;)
Heinz.
Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: Bassman on June 29, 2018, 07:08:36 AM
Hi again:)

Sorry Alexey, jetzt ist mir aufgefallen, dass Lediglich Ctrl+Up,Down funktioniert, bei Ctrl+Shift + Up, down zoomen ebenfalls alle Spuren! Left, Right problemlos!

Also die Shift Taste wird nicht weitergegeben, mit der Tastatur selbst geht das, aber was mir noch aufgefallen ist, dass ich immer zuerst mit der Maus in das Fenster klicken muss, also mit Ctrl+Tab den Focus wechseln genügt nicht. Das war aber immer schon so, also auch mit Zoom vergrössern und verkleinern...

Danke,
Heinz.
Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: azslow3 on July 15, 2018, 09:56:05 AM
Das Problem ist tief... Es betrifft nur bestimmte Kombinationen,  z.b. Up/Down/Left/Right mit Shift.
Ich benutze Sonar API und damit kann ich nicht das Problem umgehen. Ich muss dann auf Windows API umschalten, das probiere ich nächste Woche.
 
Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: Bassman on July 15, 2018, 08:49:03 PM
@Alexey

Mach dir bitte keinen Stress! Wenn es nicht geht dann ist es halt so:) 

Liebe Grüsse,
Heinz.
Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: azslow3 on July 21, 2018, 10:02:36 AM
Versuch mit b393

Ich hatte mit eine Virtuele Machine Tests gemacht, dort funktionierte es ohne Änderungen, auf normale doch nicht.
Aber jetzt macht es was es soll auf alle meine Rechner.
Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: Bassman on July 24, 2018, 09:49:42 AM
Hi Alexey:)

Ich versuche es im Laufe der Woche, bin noch im Stress bis zum Urlaub....... danke;)

Heinz.


P.S. Es funktioniert, vielen Dank dafür:)
Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: nickeson on November 01, 2019, 10:45:53 PM
Hi,

I have tried using Bassman's v10 preset (based on Marko's BCR2000 preset), and for the most part it's working great.  However, I'm unable to open the 'AZ Display' feature that shows me what's happening within the plugin while using it.  Even when clicking the button in the preferences that opens the display, it still doesn't open.  I've tried with a previous preset and the AZ display opens just fine, both from the BCR button presses, and also from within the preferences window for AZ Ctrl, so I know it's not an issue with the version of the plugin I'm using, my OS, etc.  It's only doing that behaviour using Bassman's v10 preset (which I want due to the addition of more ACT banks that are usable).

Any suggestsions on how to get this functionality back?  I've reviewed everything I know about this plugin and both presets match in all places I can think to look regarding this feature.  The fact that it doesn't work when manually selecting the option from the preferences menu has me stumped.  Help?

Thanks!
Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: azslow3 on November 02, 2019, 01:07:25 AM
Do you have more then one monitor?
AZ Display position is saved inside preset. If it is outside of Windows total display area, it is usually moved to visible position. At least for me, v10 display appear on top. But if you have some other monitor or at least Windows think you have one, it can be AZ display is there (where MarKo has placed it on his system).
If you still fail to find it, I can re-save preset with position on one monitor system.
Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: nickeson on November 03, 2019, 10:03:53 PM
That worked like a charm.  I changed my system to single monitor and re-saved the preset. 

Your genius knows no bounds, sir. 

I can't wait to try this out a bit more as it incorporates changes I tried to make to Marko's original preset to fit my mixing situation a bit better.  My efforts were mostly successful, but unstable and I had to reload the preset every session or two, and I never fully integrated the ACT mapping, so after a year of toying with it I decided to look for any updates to Marko's v8 preset.  That has evolved, as has the documentation, making it much more useful and easy to understand.  On top of that, Bassman added a 2nd bank of ACT controls, which just took this preset to the next level.  I'm sooo stoked!  A paypal donation to your coffee fund is coming soon with my next paycheck.  The world needs to know how badass your plugin is!!  Thank you for everything you do, and for helping keep Sonar/CBB one step ahead of the curve. 
Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: Bassman on December 11, 2019, 02:34:33 PM
HI:)

@nickeson

I'm experimentating with a second controller for much more ACT Controllers.

Works like that:(for me it is a Novation LaunchControl XL)

1. Install loopmidi, a virtual midi cable
2. Install midiox, a free midi program
3. in midiox select BCR2000 and "novation LaunchControl XL" as Input
4. Select a loopmidi port as output.
5. Now in ACT Control select loopmidi as Input for the BCR2000 and BCR2000 as Output.

Now Midi Signals of both are coming to AZslow Controller.

In BCR2000 I have all controllers on Midichannel 1, in LaunchControl all controllers on midichannel 6 and for other presets 7 and higher.

In AZController for each new controller you have to add a new hardware controller for each controller on the new midi controller and save it.

In the hardware Tab move your faders or knobs, sliders and select the right control in the hardware control on the hardware tab.
Then attach and assign midi.

In the logic control add

====================
'Mode ACT' - ACT S1                   or S17 or R49, what you need
-Catch Linear, timeout touch        or Direct Linear
====================

With 8 presets I could assign  another 8 x 32 Rotors, sliders and 8 x 16 knobs...

All you have to do is to start midiox before starting Cakewalk.


A question for Alexey:)

After ending with ACT Mode, the last used parameter stays intact and active until I start ACT Mode again.

What do I have to add in the Logic Tab that ACT Mode ends for this new Controllers??

Does mean that all new added controllers change the last selected ACT parameter. But I ended ACT Mode. With the controls on the BCR200 everything's fine, and there is only this line:

'Mode ACT' - ACT S1     

If I copy this to the new controls nothing goes on with faders and sliders....why?


Thanks;)
Bassman.

Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: azslow3 on December 11, 2019, 07:56:20 PM
Sorry, but I have not understood the question :(

But for the first part, AZ Controller support proper solution, without external programs.
Check "Cooperation mode" in the manual. To avoid mentioned there "Warning", use: http://www.azslow.com/index.php/topic,384.msg2262.html#msg2262

In short, you can add up to 3 "slave" controllers to one Master. In this case controllers deliver different MIDI messages from AZ Controller perspective, even in case they send the same MIDI messages (it can happened you have problem with that...). Other then that, the preset (in Master) see all controllers as "one device".
Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: Bassman on December 11, 2019, 08:42:45 PM
Thank you for pointing to Cooperation mode!

I'm checking this out tomorrow.

There are problems with the Logic Tab.

For the new control:

If I am writing only :

Mode ACT - ACT S1     (for example)

Nothing happens on moving the slider!

If I add:
Catch linear,  timeout touch

the slider works but there are strange behaviours with some things.  Especially the WAI display doesn't work correctly any more.

So I'm pretty sure I don't have the correct syntax for this new control!

I want to use this other midi controller only for ACT, which is activated by a knob from the BCR

What do I have to write exactly in the Logic Tab that there are no problems with other Settings?

Thank you😊
Bassman
Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: azslow3 on December 12, 2019, 07:56:29 AM
For meaningful sequence need 2 actions: "Select" what you want control (so ACT S1) and "Modify" what you have select (so "Set value, catch, etc.").

Why creating new controls can influence something else? Somewhere clashing MIDI assignments, bugs, hard to say without the preset...
Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: Bassman on December 12, 2019, 11:37:08 AM
Hi Alexey:)

Cooperation Mode works very fine!

Attached the 2 Presets. With the new Controls (16 Sliders and 48 Rotors) WAI Display is fine but it doesn't change to the bus. Only the display, focus is on the bus and works for the sliders and rotors.

Another problem, ACT activate for Synths have never worked, only for plugins. I then have to activate ACT with a plugin and then open synths with mouse doubleclick.
Then I can only switch between synths, until I click again with the mouse on a plugin and can then switch again between them. This will be related to Cakewalk I think;)

If you have time, please look at the WAI Display for busses, if not doesn't matter, I can live with this little display error!

Thank you a lot:)
Bassman.
Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: azslow3 on January 08, 2020, 05:47:02 PM
Sorry, I forgot...

1. In many ACT controls for slave you forgot "Shift:0" condition for "Direct Linear". That means when Shift is active, that will set whatever parameter was last changed (since parameter selection has Shift:0 condition). Fixed.

2. There is "Detached 91" control. Under some conditions (I could not trace which) it seems like that is possible to do by mistake. But in my experience, the mistake usually comes from my side of the chair ;) It was responsible for Bus/Track switching. Restored.

3. ACT R10 was duplicated in detached control (not affecting anything, R10 exist). Removed.

4. Synth ACT was not working by design. Modified to try open it. Note that not always works and sometimes work incorrectly (there is no direct function to find relation between current track and synth, I use a "hack" which works sometimes). We can introduce "open the first synth in case there is no FX on the track and related synth was not found" if you want.



Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: Bassman on January 19, 2020, 09:33:16 PM
Hi :)
Thank you a lot for looking into the file!
Since I uploaded it, I've made a lot of changes to it regarding the new controller.  Trying to resolve the errors with my newest file tomorrow....
I'll write from Studio tomorrow morning..

Thank you🙂
Heinz.
Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: Bassman on January 20, 2020, 09:52:55 AM
Novation Launch Control Presets for the newest BCR File.
Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: Bassman on January 20, 2020, 12:50:52 PM
HI:)

Attached the newest spps

BCR2000 as Master, Launch Control as Slave

For the Launch Control I have attached and midiassigned:

Device, Mute, Solo and Record Arm  are for switching between the presets on all 4 presets. In CbB Settings/MIdi/Playback and Record/Sysx forwarding must be enabled to LaunchControl XL!

It's not possible to switch Preset + and -, so you can only switch to preset 2 f.e with a sysx Command. Perhaps Alexey can find a better way to do this.
Send Select und Track Select are 4 additional Buttons.

Preset 1: ACT Rotors 1-24, ACT Switches 1-20, ACT Sliders 1-8

Preset 2: ACT Rotors 25-48, ACT Switches 21-40, ACT Sliders 9-16

Preset 3: ACT Rotors 49-72, ACT Switches 41-60, ACT Sliders 17-24

Preset 4: ACT Rotors 73-96, ACT Switches 61-80, ACT Sliders 25-32

BCR2000:

1.Row ACT Sliders 33-40 and with Shiftlock ACT Sliders 41-49

2.Row ACT Rotors 97-104 and with Sjhiftlock ACT Rotors 121-128

3.Row ACT Rotors 105-112 and with Shiftlock ACT Rotors 129-136

4.Row ACT Rotors 113-120

1.Row Buttons 81-88 and with Shiftlock 97-104

2.Row Buttons 89-96 and with Shiftlock 105-112

This should be enough!

For Alexey:

To 1. I changed all these in my Preset

To 2. I did'nt understand first, but now I think Ch:1 CC1 is reserved for the system controls? I have reattached it, it was deleted, maybe it was me...., but now the WAI Display is working again, thanks;)

To 3. Can't find any duplicated. I have a lot of Detached ones now, some of them I can deletes some not, all is greyed out, does this matter?

To 4. Open the first Synth would be very fine, at the moment ACT doesn't work if there's no Plugin in the selected track, so sometimes I have to switch to a track or bus which contain plugins, then I have to click with the mouse in a Synth, then I can switch between the synths...


Thank you very much:)
Heinz.
Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: azslow3 on January 27, 2020, 12:17:21 PM
For Alexey:

To 2. I did'nt understand first, but now I think Ch:1 CC1 is reserved for the system controls? I have reattached it, it was deleted, maybe it was me...., but now the WAI Display is working again, thanks;)
Yes, Ch:1 CC1 is "system". It is sent from monitoring to logic, some operations can not be done in monitoring. That is the way to do this (CC1 is some "random" message, so it should be sent and link to particular control but you can re-define it at both places in case CC1 can be sent by device)

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To 3. Can't find any duplicated. I have a lot of Detached ones now, some of them I can deletes some not, all is greyed out, does this matter?
I am not sure how you "generate" these Detached. They do not influence the result, but polute the preset... I have removed them. You do this by deleting all actions in the Logic tab first, it is allowed to delete Detached control in the Hardware tab then.

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To 4. Open the first Synth would be very fine, at the moment ACT doesn't work if there's no Plugin in the selected track, so sometimes I have to switch to a track or bus which contain plugins, then I have to click with the mouse in a Synth, then I can switch between the synths...
As in my previous preset, I have modified this one for more advanced logic. That includes changes in ACT control as well as new fFindFX control. Current logic is:
1) find the first FX for the strip
2) if it has no FXes, try to find related Synth
3) if related Synth is not found, focus the first synth in the rack.

That will not work "right" for audio tracks without FXes and Buses, but that was your choice :)
If too annoing, you can remove the logic of (3) from fFindFX control (it is called for both 8th and 24th).
Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: Bassman on January 28, 2020, 06:43:44 PM
Hi😊

Thank you very much,  I'll try this out  tomorrow!

Heinz.
Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: Bassman on February 01, 2020, 04:30:54 PM
Hi Alexey:)

With Synths it doesn't work perfect, but it switches on ACT Mode and that's much better than before!

If I want a plugin I use the Audiotrack, and on the miditrack a synth opens and I can switch between, that's more than OK for me.

Before it didn't switch to ACT Mode.......


Thank you a lot;)
Heinz.
Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: Jason_ZA on February 04, 2020, 10:36:37 PM
Greetings from Cape Town, South Africa, MarKo and AZSlow. I just purchased a Novation Launch Control XL on a crazy sale and spent the entire night trying to set it up using the SysEx files you uploaded (Launch_Control_XL_Preset 1, 2, 3 and 4), by loading them into the Novation Launch Control XL Editor and also loaded the AZ Controller Preset that AZSlow worked on (Master b10.01 2020.5az*).

I notice that the Presets for the Channel 1 SysEx mappings were not included and I think that this is how come I cannot get it to work as intended. I'm not lazy and really tried to do this myself but if anyone can point me in the right direction, I would really appreciate it. I really like the AZSlow program but only used the Controller Mappings for the first time yesterday, so I am still a newbie. I installed Ableton Lite (which comes with the Novation) but hated it and deleted it 10 mins after installing it. I am just used to the workflow of CbB and prefer the way it looks as well.

The controller looks and works great in Ableton and I would really like it if I could get it to work as near as possible to this. I can understand if it cannot be an exact match but anything near enough would be awesome.

A few screenshots of what you do to get it to work in AZSlow (together with the sysex for Channel 1 will probably sort it out the quickest.

Many thanks,
Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: azslow3 on February 05, 2020, 10:06:30 AM
This thread is about BCR2000 preset. XL files there is for very special case, when XL is used in addition to BCR just to control plug-ins.

You can start with very simple generic setup in several minutes, using "Startup preset": http://www.azslow.com/index.php/topic,154.0.html
Note that you will have no "Solo/Mute/Rec" out of the box with it, nor any light from the device, nor upper knobs assigned.
But you can start mix and contoll plug-ins and at least understand is the device useful or not.
Creating good preset, with labeled switches and LED feedback, is possible in AZ Controller. But that is relatively time consuming task, even for
me.
Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: Jason_ZA on February 05, 2020, 10:23:47 AM
Thanks a lot for the prompt response, MarKo - I really appreciate it.

Surely there must be a market for people willing to pay to have their controllers set up to work like they do in Ableton - not only for Cakewalk but all other DAWS?

I for one would happily pay $20 for a near-perfect replica of the launch control setup in Cakewalk but would share my setup, if I had the knowledge (and aptitude) of doing so and created it originally for my own use, as I realise that it's a very time-consuming thing to do. It really boils down to having enough people willing to pay for it, to make it worthwhile to create, I guess.

Oh well - maybe someone with a Novation Launch Control XL will one day create a great preset and share it with the community. Till then it looks like I'll have to reinstall Ableton Live Lite :-(

If anyone has a preset that works pretty well with the Launch Control XL in its required manner, please do share.
Title: Re: [MarKo] BCR2000
Post by: Bassman on February 06, 2020, 10:14:27 PM
Hi Jason🙂

What do you mean with Channel 1? Midichannel 1?

I put these Presets 1-4 to Midichannels 5-8 and let the manufactery controller numbers intact.

The BCR Preset is laid out to use a BCR2000 and a Launch Control together! If you tell me how you want to use it, perpaps I can make a preset for you.

Please PM me for not to write in this thread.

Bassman.